This allows a GENUINE and OFFICAL change in a lot of the unwritten "customs" of this cult. This is going to allow the younger ones to go ahead and make a legitimate future for themselves, by going to college, getting careers, buying houses, having families (thus seeding future automatons), and by the time they start getting close to 2057, a whole new set of victims will be ready for the next date 30-40 years out. It's gotta be within adults' lifetimes NOW or it won't pan out. But I can take comfort in knowing I can live a wicked life for another good 25 years, then come 'round, see the light, change my evil ways, (when I'm an old lady and have no more interest in living a "real life" anyway). Cool. I did the right thing sixteen years ago. (not that I had any doubt then, but it is always nice to be right) I wonder how my mom feels about all this. Shoshana
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Watchtower study today at meeting
by dustyb inwell, looks like they do have a new date for the conclusion of the end, and that we should "be prepared".
even some people that commented said that 90 years of the 120 years have passed by and we should be prepared for the time at hand.
2034 people, 2034.... i've had enough, i'm talkign to the elder about this one, i don't care if i get labelled or not.
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Inane question of the year...so far.
by meat pie inhello everyone, this question was asked of me by a 'tame' jw today, 'have you thought of starting smoking?'.
the question was put as if now that i don't go to meetings any more, i'd want to take up smoking!
as i'm middle-aged and packed in the fags yonks ago, it was especially stupid.my reply was, 'good god no, why would i?'.
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When I was about 16, one of the old bitties (as opposed to the nice ladies) was trying to make uplifting conversation with me after a Sunday meeting. She was telling me how fortunate (eck-that word) I was to be "raised in the truth" because I was living such morally clean and healthy teenaged years. She openly asserted that if I weren't a witness I would be smoking, drinking, doing drugs and sleeping around. I told her (in an effort to make uplifting ocnversation myself) that I thought it was a misconception that all teenagers were such loose, disgusting things, and that really, the peer pressure was practically non-existent in the classes, and with the kids I knew. I told her that none of the kids I saw at school and visited with were into any of those things, and that most of them would be horrified to know that she thought that they were. I was promptly reported to the elders. They weren't even sure what I had done wrong, so they let me off with a "you should witness to them then, if they are such good kids..." (yeah right, like I want to lose the few friends I did have...) Shoshana
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I need help with a life changing decision
by Matt_2k inmy family used to be jehovah?s witnesses up until i was about 6 years old, for reasons unknown too me they left.
when the events of september 11th unfolded they started going back to the meetings, myself included.
it started out ok, i was keen to learn, but the more i learnt, the more i realised that a lot of the predictions and teachings did not make sense, so after about 9 months i stopped attending the meetings and eventually stopped being involved all together.
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Hello Matt-You are in a very difficult position. You are at the age when any teenager would be pushing against parental boundaries, which could be clouding the real issue for you and your family-chalk it up to teenaged angst or apathy, they might be saying. However, this religion is very dangerous and you may be in a position to save your family from a lifetime of distant familial relations with you. I'd suggest a couple of things-first if you haven't already, start reaching out to the adults (maybe your guidance counselor or a favorite teacher) and making other adult connections. If a teenager doesn't have an adult (with "normal" perspective) they can go to for advice on the everyday issues of growing up, they often flounder. Second, find out from your parents why the stopped going to meetings when you were six. If they had good reasons then, those reasons are probably still a problem to them-you will likely find it discussed here, to give you talking points with your parents & a way to start to chip away at their renewed commitment. You are old enough to stand up for your family, and it sounds as though it might be time to do so. Tread lightly and keep us posted. I look forward to a post en titled "Matt saves his family!" Shoshana
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Well... I'm out of a job... again.
by Elsewhere ineveryone in the office was called to a big department meeting... with the exception of me and a few others.
we were called to another meeting.
yeah... i knew something was up.
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So sorry, this really sucks. I remember some of your posts, even if they can back this up a hundred ways, there is still more than a modicum of impropriety that needs to be accounted for and that you deserve to be compensated for. Wait 'til you have your new job. Then sue them. Check timelines in your state, there may be a really short statute of limitations, if it is handled administratively rather than in the judicial system....do have a quick chat with a lawyer so you will at least know what your options are. But wait til you have your new job. It will come fast, I'm sure of it. Shoshana
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I'm Home!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
by Yizuman infinally!
i got a place of my own!
i moved here last week sunday after i saw an ad for an apt for $425.00 p/m w/ all utilities paid!!!
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YES!!!We should throw Yiz a virtual house-warming. Care to register anywhere Yiz? There's gotta be some odds and ends you need (or want). Congratulations-so many of us were praying for you. I'm glad you're home. Shoshana
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What Did You Find To Be The Most Confusing Belief Of Jehovah's Witnesses?
by minimus injehovah's witnesses certainly have some unique beliefs and some are very, very confusing.
anything that you never quite understood?
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I found that they called mere attendance at hundreds of hours of sales training meetings worship, and that those that sold the most were the most spiritual. Uh-whatever. Shoshana
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I daydreamed through thousnd of hours of meetings and assemblies. Because of that I have a very well-developed imagination. I can slip into daydream mode and keep myself entertained through any needless staff meeting now. Because of those daydreams, I often am able to mentally remove myself from uncomfortable or painful situations. That's a pretty cool hidden talent I developed.
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I have a delicious secret
by La Capra ini met a guy sunday.
there's definitely chemistry.
and we really hit it off.
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I met a guy Sunday. There's definitely chemistry. And we really hit it off. I'm keeping it to myself for now. But, it feels pretty good to be smitten. I haven't been smitten in quite awhile. I can hardly wait 'til our date next weekend (He called before I even got a chance to get home). Shoshana
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Dating and being chapperoned
by dustyb inwhy the hell can't jws date w/o having a chapperone or anything of that matter?
i have always thought that its stupid and its trying to pry into peoples lives.
but i just wanna know why.
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I knew a couple of teenaged-home-schooled-pioneers a bit younger than me that would tell stay home "sick" from the meetings, then hook up while everyone was at the meeting and out of the way. One of them told me about it a few years later. I really don't remember if they did ever get caught because I was out by then. But I was moderately impressed with their scheme. It had flaws, but it was still clever. Shoshana
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Dating and being chapperoned
by dustyb inwhy the hell can't jws date w/o having a chapperone or anything of that matter?
i have always thought that its stupid and its trying to pry into peoples lives.
but i just wanna know why.
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What was the rule for THREE unmarried couples? Four? When does it become a get together? Just wondering. Shoshana